Khalid
Yasin: The new voice of Islam?
SARAH
FERGUSON: Like that other famous African-American convert
to Islam?Khalid Yasin "floats like a butterfly?stings
like a bee."
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
ISLAMIC BROADCASTING GROUP, DURING A LECTURE:
And how can you put a sacred trust in the hands of a
non-Muslim? There's no such thing as a Muslim having
a non-Muslim friend. If you prefer the clothing of the
kafirs over the clothing of the Muslims, most of those
names that's on most of those clothings is faggots, homosexuals
and lesbians.
SARAH
FERGUSON: A regular guest lecturer in Australian mosques
and universities.. for the past 3 years, Sheikh Yasin
is now shadow boxing with the Federal government.
BRENDAN
NELSON, MINISTER FOR EDUCATION,
SCIENCE AND TRAINING: The idea that you would
come here and promulgate views which not only will demean
and denigrate certain individuals and sections of Australian
society, but in the end, ultimately, I think, incite
divisions and violence in Australian society, there should
be no place for that.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: Some people characterise me as a radical
cleric. I'm not more radical than Mahatma Gandhi or John
Pilger or Jesus Christ or anybody else who's trying to
preach a moral word.
SARAH
FERGUSON: Sheikh Yasin is about to test Australian tolerance
to its limits. He wants to be a leader in Australia's
Islamic community as an Islamic media mogul, and he's
been raising money here for his own radio and TV stations.
Starting with radio broadcasts, Yasin has big plans for
what he calls the Purpose of Life Islamic TV channel.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: Wherever Discovery Channel is at, the Purpose
of Life channel will be. We believe that Purpose of Life
as a channel and as a theme will become just as generic
and just as common and attractive as Discovery Channel.
SARAH
FERGUSON: But it seems Sheikh Yasin wasn't really counting
on discovery, for Sunday has discovered many of the claims
he makes to support his project, and indeed much of his
CV, are false. The issue is that he's claimed to have
those qualifications. I've checked. He doesn't. Does
that concern you?
WALID
ALI, MANAGING DIRECTOR ISLAMIC
BROADCASTING GROUP: Yes, I guess it would concern
me. I would really need to understand why he would make
those claims if they weren't true.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN DURING A LECTURE: You forget your Islamic
identity. Now you have become compromised through some
kind of intellectuality.
SARAH
FERGUSON: Yasin's misfortune was trying to launch his
empire here when the debate on Australian values versus
Islamic fundamentalism was at its most intense and emotional,
especially since last week's bombing in Bali. For years
Sheikh Yasin had gone unnoticed by the Government, visiting
the country to give lectures, even teaching at a Sydney
school.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN, DURING A LECTURE: There is not enough talk
about brotherhood. There is not enough exercising of
brotherhood. You go to mosques but you don't feel brotherhood.
You see Muslims in the street but you don't see brotherhood.
ADAM
HOUDA, LAWYER: The Muslim
youth have copped an absolute battering in the media
since 1998, which has, and I've seen it first-hand, which
has affected their self esteem and their confidence.
Khalid Yasin instils a lot of pride in the youth and
reminds them, that as Muslims, they've got a lot to be
proud of.
SARAH
FERGUSON: Adam Houda is a Sydney lawyer and until recently
a director of Yasin's company.
ADAM
HOUDA: As far as the young people are concerned, he's
like a superstar. They find him very appealing. He's
Afro-American. They find him a little bit hip for a so-called
sheikh.
SARAH
FERGUSON: And it's precisely the young that Yasin likes
to target with his message. He knows how to push their
buttons.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN, LEADING A DISCUSSION GROUP: When they talk
about fanatic extremist, they really are talking about
young male Muslims. How do you feel about that? Does
it make you feel angry, disappointed or — what
do you think?
DISCUSSION
GROUP PARTICIPANT: Basically people look at Muslims these
days with the wrong scope. They look at us like we're
criminals, people who want to see destruction and things
like that.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN, LEADING A DISCUSSION GROUP: How do you
feel about the fact that the Government is saying we
should set up some new rules to make sure that no potential
terrorists are developed or cultivated. And also we want
to see inside the mosque and places and so we can see
before something happens. How do you feel about that?
Because that's what's being talked about. Now, if they
didn't say exactly that, I'm telling you that's what
it means.
DISCUSSION
GROUP PARTICIPANT: It's an absolute joke how far this
has gone about everyone being prejudiced about Muslims.
If anything was going to happen, like a terrorist activity
or anything, it would be basically because of the pressure
being put on Muslims by non-Muslims causing dramatic
pain, you know what I mean?
BRENDAN
NELSON: I think that we have got to be extremely concerned
when he can come to our country, target, particularly,
young Muslim men.
SARAH
FERGUSON: Federal Education Minister Brendan Nelson wants
to bring in a system of accreditation for Islamic preachers.
BRENDAN
NELSON: I think perhaps there can be an argument for
perhaps taking a more strident position in relation to
visas that are offered to people who come to our country.
SARAH
FERGUSON: Before he got into broadcasting, Yasin distributed
DVDs of his lectures, like this one. The constant message
is that Muslims are victimised everywhere.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN, DVD EXCERPT: Allegedly Muslims in Kashmir
or Afghanistan or Palestine or Somalia or Kashmir or
Afghanistan or Iraq or Somalia or Palestine or Bali or
Indonesia —
any place where Muslims have been displaced.
SARAH
FERGUSON: And while he doesn't condone suicide bombing,
he says it's understandable.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN, DVD EXCERPT: You think about a woman who
is 18 years old and beautiful who has lost her children,
lost her father, lost her her brothers, lost her mind,
and she thinks that the only thing she can do to send
a signal back to the people who are the criminals of
this is to do an act of reprisal, is to strap on her
60 pounds of explosives and walk out onto a bus or a
cafe or a hospital or whatever where there are innocent
people and blow herself up as an example. That's frustration.
But is it justified? Islamically, it is not. But can
it be understood in the context of perpetuated, protracted
oppression that brought about a sense of madness? Yes.
SARAH
FERGUSON: According to Yasin, suicide bombing is un-Islamic.
He says he doesn't approve of it but he does understand
it. Do you have some sympathy with that view?
BRENDAN
NELSON: Well I — most certainly not. Firstly suicide
is in itself something that we struggle to understand
and do everything we can to try to prevent but to take
your own life in trying to kill an indeterminate number
of innocent people is perhaps one of the most heinous
of crimes that could be committed.
SARAH
FERGUSON: So who is Khalid Yasin and why is he here?
He was born a Christian into a family of 10 children
in Harlem.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: I come from the ghetto, the Vietnam of
New York, so coming out of that jungle and being gifted
by the Creator to be Muslim, I think my responsibility
is to share what's inside of me with other people. I
don't care what colour they are any more. Back in the
'60s it was a white/black thing. It's not a white/black
thing any more.
SARAH
FERGUSON: It was then, growing up in the height of the
civil rights era. Aged 18, he became a Muslim after hearing
a lecture by Malcolm X.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: I started to understand class and I started
reading things and I developing inside of myself a distaste
for issues of exploitation and oppression — Nicaragua
and Panama and Honduras, South Africa and apartheid —
and started to understand what those words meant.
SARAH
FERGUSON: Yasin wants us to see him as an ordinary man.
He invited us into his home to make breakfast. But even
early in the morning he can't stop himself.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: Osama bin Laden is not everywhere, omnipotent.
He's, like, in the East, he's in the West, he's in the
sky, he's everywhere, where's Osama bin Laden? That would
warrant $68 billion in 17 countries hunting him and everyone
in their houses being afraid of this kind of Osama bin
Laden bogey man. This is a creation, they have created
this here in the minds of the people, in order to justify
a war they call on terror but is really a terror they
have put inside the people. It is a war against Islam.
SARAH
FERGUSON: And he's waded right into one of the most divisive
issues between the Muslim community and the Federal Government
— September 11.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: There has been no evidence that has surfaced,
no bona fide irrevocable, irrefutable evidence that had
been surfaced that showed that there is a group called
al-Qa'ida that did the September 11 bombings. I'm of
the opinion there was a rogue operation that took place.
Now, to go beyond that would say I would have to have
some evidence, which I don't.
SARAH
FERGUSON: But he does go beyond it.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: An operation that took place with the complicity
of some very sophisticated entities other than some Middle
Eastern guys on an airplane, or being orchestrated by
someone in a cave in Iraq.
SARAH
FERGUSON: What do you mean by "sophisticated entities"?
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: Sophisticated entities means entities who
themselves were governmentally instructed, equipped,
motivated. We now know that the way that the World Trade
Center fell the way that those buildings fell — they
fell from internal explosive charges, the same way it's
done in a construction site.
BRENDAN
NELSON: It's possible he needs some professional assistance.
If I drew on my medical background, perhaps a psychiatrist
may be able to help him. How anybody could possibly hold
that kind of view, let alone promote it to others, particularly
people who themselves have low levels of education, who
live impoverished lives. He knows that those kind of
views can at times fall into fertile ground.
WAQAS
ZAHICK: To be honest, it has not been yet on the records,
and you know media better than me, heaps better than
me, it has not proved up till today's date particularly
yes, this was the person behind it.
SARAH
FERGUSON: Yasin is clearly getting his message across
to some young Muslims. Waqas Zahick and Farooq Khan are
enthralled by him. They work for him full time without
a salary.
FAROOQ
KHAN: I haven't met anyone like him. He's powerful. His
motivation is just astonishing. He guides people towards
bettering themselves.
WAQAS
ZAHICK: I personally take him as my mentor or as my teacher
in both religious affairs, to some extent, as well as
in civilised life.
SARAH
FERGUSON: Conspiracy theories are Yasin's bread and butter,
and the wilder, the better.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN, DVD EXCERPT: An AIDS virus, that is a classic
disease that was created in Fort McKinley, United States.
Fort McKinley, the AIDS virus, 63,000 gallons.
SARAH
FERGUSON: This one comes from his DVD called 'Jihad or
Terrorism'.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN, DVD EXCERPT: Missionaries from the World
Health Organisation and Christian groups went into Africa
and inoculated people for diphtheria, malaria, yellow
fever and they put in the medicine the AIDS virus.
SARAH
FERGUSON: You said in Purpose of Life television at the
end of each program you're going to have a moral statement.
So in a sense, Purpose of Life, let's be clear — Purpose
of Life will endorse that theory of AIDS.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: No, we won't necessarily, because we can't
endorse that theory because that theory is not necessarily
fact. What our job is is to bring another view.
SARAH
FERGUSON: And what do you believe? Do you believe AIDS
was devised by the US Government to limit population
growth?
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: I don't say by the US Government. I say
there were at least five governments that acted in complicity.
BRENDAN
NELSON: Firstly, I have a personal view about this. My
own brother died of AIDS, so I am quite repulsed by the
things that he has said. The second is that we respect
freedom of speech until it diminishes and demeans or
vilifies any one individual or any section of Australian
society.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: What I would like to do is to offer something
that we call moral-minded media. And that is — what
we are trying to do is to not make condemnations, not
to make judgments, but to put a statement in the middle
that we consider to be neutral.
SARAH
FERGUSON: But Yasin's version of neutral is deeply alarming
to some sections of the community.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: The Koran gives a very clear position regarding
homosexuality, lesbianism and bestiality — that
these are aberrations, they are immoralities and if they
are tried, convicted, they are punishable by death.
SARAH
FERGUSON: But on the streets of Lakemba in Sydney's Islamic
heartland, the visiting preacher is a welcome face. His
constant theme is that Muslims here are being victimised.
He takes me to visit the Haldon Street Islamic bookstore,
exposed in the media after the London bombings for stocking
how-to books on suicide bombing. They don't want us to
come in. Do they think they've been unfairly targeted?
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: Of course they do, and I think that goes
without question. They have been by elected officials
and by the media industry in general ...
SARAH
FERGUSON: In what way?
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: Nobody's calling Christians terrorists.
SARAH
FERGUSON: In the cafe across the road, Yasin explains.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: I say then every Christian shop, every
Jewish shop, every Hindu shop that may have an objectionable
material towards Muslims who is slandering the prophets
of Islam, who is slandering Islam or classifying them
as dogs or pigs or criminals or whatever should also
be done the same. And if it is not that is prejudicial
treatment.
SARAH
FERGUSON: But the reason that that particular bookshop
was targeted in the first place was that they were carrying
the material that talked about for example on how to
construct a suicide belt for a suicide bomber.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: I think that whole idea of suicide is rubbish.
There is no books in no Muslim bookstore that says how
to become a suicide bomber. This witch-hunt against Muslims
is what we are against. I have not been able to find
one single incident ...
SARAH
FERGUSON: And Yasin repeats the message frequently that
there has never been any threat from Muslims in Australia.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: There's no justification for it. I've asked
people. I've asked young people, I've asked Muslims,
non-Muslims, I've asked older people has there been an
event in the history of this country involving a Muslim
that would suggest that. They said the answer is no.
SARAH
FERGUSON: The answer, of course, is yes, that just over
1.5 years ago a man came from France with the intention
of committing a terrorist act in Australia and drew about
him people who were sympathetic to that cause.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: Okay, but there was not a terrorist incident
that took place in this country.
SARAH
FERGUSON: Because they were caught.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: OK. There was not a terrorist incident.
SARAH
FERGUSON: Convinced it is the mainstream media that's
spreading misconceptions about Islam, Yasin and his followers
are putting their faith in a new company — the
Islamic Broadcasting Corporation.
ADAM
HOUDA: Absolutely critical. Up until now, Muslims are
crying out for a platform that we can respond to allegations
that we can rebut allegations that are directed in our
way. And we don't have that.
SARAH
FERGUSON: The first broadcasts are on satellite radio
and the web, where there are no licensing requirements
nor control of content. But Yasin's Australian partner
told us they're planning to purchase an FM licence.
BRENDAN
NELSON: It is not my responsibility to control radio
stations nor license them, but I would be, certainly
if I was asked my opinion, as someone who holds such
views having a radio licence in Australia, it would be
of great concern to me.
SARAH
FERGUSON: The launch in Australia is Yasin's third attempt
to get a broadcast network up and running. The first
try in the United States failed because of September
11.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: I arrived in Saudi Arabia September 10.
I was in my hotel room and I turned on CNN and I witnessed
the horrific events take place 2.5 miles from where I
was born in a city that I consider to be home. And so
if anyone — the shock probably hit me more than
it hit anyone else.
SARAH
FERGUSON: Yasin was in Saudi Arabia to organise funding
from the Saudi charity foundation Al-Haramain.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: While in Saudi, I had some discussion with
officials at Haramain who had the interest in establishing
a TV station. If there was any place to establish a television
station in the world, it would have been America.
SARAH
FERGUSON: The US Government forced Al-Haramain to shut
down for supporting al-Qa'ida and its offshoots, including
the Indonesian terrorist group Jemaah Islamiah.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: Six months after the World Trade Center
situation took place the Haramain foundation was blacklisted
and considered to have some connections to some terrorist
base, whatever. I wouldn't know that. I didn't see any
traces of that. But once that determination was made,
I'm an American, first of all, and I have to put my own
subjectivity to the side.
SARAH
FERGUSON: Yasin moved to the UK. He made headquarters
here in the northern city of Sheffield and began looking
for new investors. Armed with this glossy brochure on
the UK operation, Yasin came back to Australia last year.
VOICE-OVER:
Islamic Broadcasting Corporation — a unique investment
opportunity. It will host up to 50 multimedia TV channels
and five radio stations. potentially serving 1.2 billion
viewers across the globe.
SARAH
FERGUSON: The brochure's biggest selling point is a TV
broadcast centre in Coventry, complete with photos and
architects' drawings.
VOICE-OVER:
We are currently relocating to our brand new purpose-built
8,000 square feet broadcast centre. It will be opened
for business in September 2005.
SARAH
FERGUSON: By the time we'd discovered Yasin's brochure,
Yasin had left the country on an overseas trip. We put
its claims to the new managing director of IBC Australia,
Walid Ali. IBC in the UK claims it's building a massive £2
million broadcast centre. And that broadcast centre is
under construction now. In fact it's supposed to be ready
now. Have you seen it?
WALID
ALI, MANAGING DIRECTOR ISLAMIC
BROADCASTING GROUP: I will be very honest with
you. I don't know a great deal about their operations
but I do know that that facility has not been built as
yet. Obviously with any organisation, any business venture
that you take on, there will be unexpected delays. I'm
sure they're having some unexpected delays. The idea
of a Muslim-owned TV station was very attractive to Muslims
here, and the brochure was crucial. Yasin used it to
convince them that the UK operation was worth investing
in. We've spoken to people who attended fundraisers in
Sydney run by Yasin. At one event last year, $90,000
was pledged in a single evening. We've also seen bank
documents transferring almost $50,000 of that money to
a bank account in the UK in the name of one of Yasin's
companies.
The
question is — what happened to that money? This
is the real technology park in Coventry and there is
no broadcast centre because the brochure is a work of
fiction, indeed fraud. Yasin's only connection with the
Coventry Technology Park was a small office space rented
out by his UK associate Channel Islam. According to the
company which leases space here, Channel Islam broke
its lease last year and is being pursued by debt collectors.
None of these groups is collaborating with Yasin. The
sums don't add up and the drawings were lifted from someone
else's brochure.
MUHAMMAD
ALI, ISLAM CHANNEL, UK:
I don't think now after this long time of promises that
channel is going to start broadcasting tomorrow, after
tomorrow, next week, next month, next year I don't think
there is much credibility left for such promises.
SARAH
FERGUSON: Muhammad Ali runs this genuine media operation
in the UK called Islam Channel, not to be confused with
Yasin's partners at Channel Islam, who left bad debts
in Coventry. He has this to say about Yasin's broadcasting
corporation in England.
MUHAMMAD
ALI: Islamic Broadcasting Corporation — to me it
doesn't exist. It's not there. I've never came across
- seen it. The first time I've heard of it is from your
good self. It doesn't exist.
SARAH
FERGUSON: Ali says that Yasin has been raising money
in the UK as well.
MUHAMMD
ALI: I remember once they had a lunch part in Regents
Park Mosque. They invite people and tell them that they
are launching it's Day Zero as they call it. And that
was three years ago and nothing came through.
ADAM
HOUDA: He's a person of great honour and he takes his
position as a representative of Islam very seriously
and he says time and time again that all his books and
all his operations is completely open for anybody that
wants to go through those papers.
SARAH
FERGUSON: But the non-existent broadcast centre is not
the only discrepancy in this operation. This is Yasin's
home in the UK, the Purpose of Life centre in Sheffield.
According to the brochure, it's an offshoot of the Islamic
Teaching Institute in the US.
VOICE-OVER:
The Islamic Teaching Institute, Georgia, 1992-2001 —
responsible for more than 11,000 persons accepting Islam
worldwide and more than 3,000 since the unfortunate September
11 incident.
SARAH
FERGUSON: IBC says it's originally an offshoot of the
Islamic Teaching Institute in Atlanta. What do you know
about the Islamic Teaching Institute that Khalid was
associated with?
WALID
ALI: I know nothing about it.
SARAH
FERGUSON: Well, we've tried to find it. We've made various
inquiries in the States, but we can't find any reference
to it or anybody who knows about it.
WALID
ALI: Well, you would have to ask Sheik Khalid in relation
to that. Sheik Khalid is well-known and respected around
the world for the work he does in propagating the message
of Islam, essentially in contact with non-Muslims. And
I think his work more than anything is where his accreditation
lies.
SARAH
FERGUSON: Where Yasin's accreditation lies is another
mystery. He prepared this CV to support an application
to the Immigration Department. Neither institution has
any record of a Khalid Yasin graduating. While he was
still in Australia, we asked Yasin about his qualifications
as a preacher.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: I say to you that whatever qualifications
I have they are subjective. And I don't even care. And
if there was a choice for Khalid Yasin I would take any
qualification, academic qualification I have and I throw
it out the window. And I tell you whatever other qualifications
I have, whatever convictions I have will stand on their
own.
SARAH
FERGUSON: The issue is that he has claimed to have those
qualifications. I've checked. He doesn't. Does that concern
you?
WALID
ALI: Well, I guess it would concern me. I would really
need to understand why he would make those claims if
they weren't true.
SARAH
FERGUSON: Sunday sent Yasin a series of questions about
these discrepancies but we haven't received a reply.
No doubt his rhetoric of Muslim victimhood will apply
equally to him.
SHEIK
KHALID YASIN: If I were a Buddhist, if I were a Hindu,
if I were a Christian if I were a born again evangelist,
would that frighten anybody? No, it wouldn't. But it
frightens people because I'm a Muslim I say that that
is the cause of the atmosphere of prejudice that has
been fostered by sensationalist, hungry, desperate prejudicial,
scandalous journalists who can't seems to find any other
story. Shame on them.
SARAH
FERGUSON: And Muhammad Ali in London has this message
for Muslims in Australia thinking of donating money to
Yasin.
MUHAMMAD
ALI: My advice — think before you donate. You have
to make sure that you are donating not only to a good
cause, because everybody knows what does it mean a good
cause, but you have to know you are giving it to the
right people.
SARAH
FERGUSON: No doubt the Australian Government will be
asking the question — what actually is the Purpose
of Life?.
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